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Ukraine’s People’s Republics Rule Out Political Union With Kiev: Reports

Ukraine’s People’s Republics Rule Out Political Union With Kiev: Reports

The leaders of the Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics during the talks with Kiev authorities in Minsk.

MOSCOW, September 30 (RIA Novosti) – Ukraine's southeastern regions could cooperate with Kiev in the spheres of security and economy, but a political union is out of the question, Andrei Purgin, Deputy Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) said in an interview with Russian Channel One on Tuesday.

"Federalism could not be discussed…Economic relations are possible, partly security…But [the republics] do not see a political union," Purgin said, adding that this position is shared by an overwhelming majority of people in Ukraine'ssoutheastern regions.

After local residents voted for the independence of the people's republics at the referendums held in May and lost thousands of lives in the armed conflict with Ukrainian forces, they cannot imagine a life under the power of the Kiev authorities, Purgin said.

A violent internal conflict erupted in Ukraine in mid-April, when Kiev launched a military operation against independence supporters in the southeastern regions of the country, who refused to recognize the new Ukrainian government which came to power as a result of the February coup.

The status of Ukraine's southeastern regions remains a matter of debate. Kiev says it is ready to offer special status only to areas controlled by independence supporters, while the authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics (DPR and LPR) claim they want full independence and will not agree to any status that regards them as a part of Ukraine.

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SECESSION MOVEMENTS ARE GREAT FOR LIBERTY

SECESSION MOVEMENTS ARE GREAT FOR LIBERTY

The recent campaign for Scottish independence should cheer supporters of the numerous secession movements springing up around the globe

by INFOWARS.COM

Even though it ultimately failed at the ballot box, the recent campaign for Scottish independence should cheer supporters of the numerous secession movements springing up around the globe.

In the weeks leading up to the referendum, it appeared that the people of Scotland were poised to vote to secede from the United Kingdom. Defeating the referendum required British political elites to co-opt secession forces by promising greater self-rule for Scotland, as well as launching a massive campaign to convince the Scots that secession would plunge them into economic depression.

The people of Scotland were even warned that secession would damage the international market for one of Scotland’s main exports, whiskey. Considering the lengths to which opponents went to discredit secession, it is amazing that almost 45 percent of the Scottish people still voted in favor of it.

The Scottish referendum result has done little to discourage other secessionist movements spreading across Europe, in countries ranging from Norway to Italy. Just days after the Scottish referendum, the people of Catalonia voted to hold their own referendum measuring popular support for secession from Spain.

Support for secession is also growing in America. According to a recent poll, one in four Americans would support their state seceding from the federal government. Movements and organizations advocating that state governments secede from the federal government, that local governments secede from state governments, or that local governments secede from both the federal and state governments, are springing up around the country. This year, over one million Californians signed a ballot access petition in support of splitting California into six states. While the proposal did not meet the requirements necessary to appear on the ballot, the effort to split California continues to gain support.

Americans who embrace secession are acting in a grand American tradition. The Declaration of Independence was written to justify secession from Britain. Supporters of liberty should cheer the growth in support for secession, as it is the ultimate rejection of centralized government and the ideologies of Keynesianism, welfarism, and militarism.

Widespread acceptance of the principle of peaceful secession and self-determination could resolve many ongoing conflicts. For instance, allowing the people of eastern Ukraine and western Ukraine to decide for themselves whether to spilt into two separate nations may be the only way to resolve their differences.

The possibility that people will break away from an oppressive government is one of the most effective checks on the growth of government. It is no coincidence that the transformation of America from a limited republic to a monolithic welfare-warfare state coincided with the discrediting of secession as an appropriate response to excessive government.

Devolving government into smaller units promotes economic growth. The smaller the size of government, the less power it has to hobble free enterprise with taxes and regulations.

Just because people do not wish to live under the same government does not mean they are unwilling or unable to engage in mutually beneficial trade. By eliminating political conflicts, secession could actually make people more interested in trading with each other. Decentralizing government power would thus promote true free trade as opposed to “managed trade” controlled by bureaucrats, politicians, and special interests.

Devolution of power to smaller levels of government should also make it easier for individuals to use a currency of their choice, instead of a currency favored by central bankers and politicians.

The growth of support for secession should cheer all supporters of freedom, as devolving power to smaller units of government is one of the best ways to guarantee peace, property, liberty — and even cheap whiskey!

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Hong Kong demonstration for free elections Tags: Honkong Demos

Hong Kong demonstration for free elections

Police (state employed thugs) do what they do

"Disperse or we will fire"

 

COMMENT from BRASSCHECK.TV

Interesting on so many levels.

First, this is the biggest demonstration in Hong Kong - ever.

Second, it's being led by college students who are striking and say they will not return to classes until the issue is settled.

Third,. the news media is doing what they do, broadcasting what I call "demonstration porn."

Instead of explaining the issues and the players involved, they're just showing footage of cops and protestors as if the whole thing were some kind of entertaining spectacle devoid of meaning.

Interesting too...if this were happening in the US, the demonstrators would be demonized as trouble markers, but since it's China they're freedom fighters deserving our respect (which they do.)


I am afraid the demonstrators are a little naive.

When China had a lot less money, a lot less power and owned a lot fewer US politicians and "thought leaders', it murdered its citizens in cold blood on television to "restore order."

I have no doubt they learned their lesson, that they can get away with it, and that they won't hesitate to do it again.

At the end of the day the people run China are gangsters after all, just like our "leaders" here at home.

 

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